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Post by Tosh on Feb 18, 2004 10:05:43 GMT -5
forgot to put my text in - twat!
Go on then do you eat anything and everything are you on an atkins diet, maybe your into insects or just plain don't eat???
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loz
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Post by loz on Mar 3, 2004 11:58:14 GMT -5
I'm vegetarian (but also avoid as many dairy products as i can) because i am against people killing each other so don't see why we should kill animals as well. However I don't have a problem with other people killing animals for food, but i do have a problem with people picking it up off the counter at the super-market and not giving a shit about the cruelty that animal suffered before ending up on that shelf. Due to the capitalist take over of small farms and turning them into mass livestock producers/slaughter houses the animals have the shittiest lives than ever before. I could accept meat eating more if people reared/kept/killed thier own animals after keeping them in good conditions and with respect...call me an idealist.
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Post by Beelzebozo on Mar 4, 2004 18:55:45 GMT -5
I am with loz on this one....I always was aware of the way the steak ended up on my plate, but only recently became disturbed by that priocess. I reckon to hunt and kill your own food as a means to survive is fine, but think about the necessity to eat meat....humans are omnivores and therfore process and digest meat n veg, but the need to eat meat is a conscious one nowadays, not necessity. This arguement will always rage on, but veggie is da way to go
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Post by Tosh on Mar 18, 2004 12:12:38 GMT -5
That's a pretty decisive lead for the vegetarion option!!!
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kieran
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Post by kieran on May 11, 2004 5:21:30 GMT -5
i think a lot of people go vegetarian because its reletavely (sp!) guilt free and its easier to follow than a vegan diet. I would say that to be a vegetarian is to be too lazy to be a vegan. I voted omnivore because, well, i am! I have to say though, mass produced shit is just that: SHIT! it tastes bland and crappy and you hardly even get value for money. I would prefer to buy from reputable brands, locally grown stuff and local farmers etc... but until im living on my own i dont have much of a choice, as my parents dont really mind what they eat.
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Post by Beelzebozo on May 11, 2004 16:31:07 GMT -5
Kieren, I'd challenge u on that. It shouldn't matter where or who u live with....if u want to NOT eat meat, then u make that choice. Parents think they know best, but they only want what they believe is in the best interests according to their generation or persoanl mindset. My missus has been veggie since she was 8, and that was over 20 years ago. She told her folks she would not eat dead animals, and to this day she hasn't....even tho they tried to force chops on her now and again
so you choose your own destiny my man
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kieran
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Post by kieran on May 12, 2004 8:23:54 GMT -5
no, you got me wrong, i want to eat meat, just stuff that lived properly, like free range chickens and stuff.
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Post by Tosh on May 12, 2004 17:22:41 GMT -5
Yeah, It can be difficult getting the balance right as to what is the best way for yourself. Kieran obviously recognises the need to minimalise suffering to any animals but he retains his choice to eat meat as being his way of living. Beelzebozo is veggie like his missus and takes that minimalising suffering to a higher level in that by refusing to eat meat they aim to make as big a difference as they can. I could well be wrong on both counts guys, so feel free to tell me ;D By the way Beelzebozo, don't tell me you've never tried to force yr chops on anyone before! he he he
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Post by Beelzebozo on May 12, 2004 17:35:06 GMT -5
yep i missed the point...doh! Tis about personal choice....you justify it to yersel, no-one else. But the pain, unessecary suffering and downright cruelty in the pain of animals in the food chain is sickening tho....c'mon. It is, innit? Why not send mass murderers and lifers to processing plants and turn them into sausages? Because its still suffering thats why...animals have feelings too! Mon the veg
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kieran
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Post by kieran on May 13, 2004 12:35:42 GMT -5
i appreciate your stance against animal suffering by refusing to eat meat, but its still my choice to eat meat just as its your choice not to. there are greater evils in my world that require my attention thank you very much.
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Post by Beelzebozo on May 13, 2004 16:18:57 GMT -5
Yep, appreciate and respect that my man! One man's pain is another man's pleasure etc etc
My opinions on some things would be challenged greatly by others too....so respect for doing what's right for you!
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Husker
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'It's funny how dogs and cats know the inside of folk better than other folks do, isn't it?'
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Post by Husker on Jun 30, 2004 4:05:00 GMT -5
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Husker
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'It's funny how dogs and cats know the inside of folk better than other folks do, isn't it?'
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Post by Husker on Jul 15, 2004 13:42:48 GMT -5
And this is also worth a view...http://www.ciwf.org.uk
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Post by Tosh on Jul 17, 2004 9:53:16 GMT -5
Yep, that's got a load of stuff worth reading. This part I thought was worth lifting! GET INVOLVED AS A CONSUMER Buy free range or organic Free range and organic meat and egg products are produced in higher welfare systems where the animals have access to the outdoors. If you can’t find free range or organic products in your supermarket, then please ask for them. Let supermarkets know that you care. Look out for the Soil Association’s logo for a guarantee of high organic standards. Free range cakes Many people buy free-range eggs. But what about processed foods? The egg ingredient in most processed foods and ready-made meals is battery produced. Look out for the Soil Association's logo for a guarantee of high organic standards. 100% of the egg ingredients used in Marks & Spencer’s products are free-range and Waitrose’s own label will be non-cage (free-range or barn) by December 2004. Beware confusing labels Terms such as ‘Fresh’, ‘Farm Fresh’ or ‘Country Fresh’ are often used to sell factory farmed products. These clever marketing terms may seem reassuring, but they say nothing about welfare. For higher welfare, make sure the label clearly states: ‘free range, ‘ organic’ or ‘outdoor reared/bred’. ‘Farm Assured’? A myriad of farm assurance schemes have sprung up in recent decades. When it comes to welfare, ‘farm assured’ generally guarantees little more than producers having complied with minimum regulatory requirements. Factory farmed meat and eggs are often produced under standard farm assurance schemes. Visit our microsite at www.littleredtractor.info for more information on farm assurance schemes. Imported food Bear in mind where your food has come from. Some imported meat will have come from countries where the welfare standards may be much lower than our own. Always try and purchase meat, milk and eggs that have been produced as close to you as possible to reduce the number of “food miles”. Boycott G.M. / frankenstein foods Soon shoppers may find ‘frankenstein’ animal foods in the supermarket. Co-op and Marks & Spencer have confirmed they will not sell any G.M animal products. ASDA, Safeway, Somerfield, Tesco and Waitrose have agreed to keep G.M. out of their own brand products. Report exotic animal products Frogs’ legs cut from the living animal, foie gras from force fed fowl, and meat from essentially wild animals such as ostrich are products of cruelty. If you see these on sale complain to the company involved and report your findings to CIWF. Organic milk From organic cows fed a more natural diet that helps avoid the welfare problems which often arise from pushing cows to produce more and more milk. Sold by most major supermarkets, those selling the greatest proportion of organic milk are: Waitrose (20%), ASDA (5%), Sainsbury’s (4.6%), Tesco (4%) and Morrisons (4%). For those preferring the non-dairy option, many supermarkets sell organic soya milk. Voice your concern! Use every opportunity such as supermarket customer comment cards, company websites, and letters to store managers etc to voice your concern, as a consumer, about farm animal welfare.
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Post by enemapunx on Sept 19, 2004 15:53:30 GMT -5
I dunno which class I fall into.....heres a typical daily diet...
8am - wake up, take 3 oranges, and juice them then drink
9am work - water on regular intervals
6pm - tea time - take some apples, pears, grapes, stick it in a juicer (not a blender) and make a big cup of juice, then drink
up to 10pm - water
and thats pretty much me.....
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